# Ground Fill - Still need traces? **URL:** \ **Category:** fab\ **Created:** [December 20, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/ground-fill-still-need-traces/2662 "2016-12-20T21:07:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tcox8](https://forum.fritzing.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@tcox8](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/tcox8)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/ground-fill-still-need-traces/2662/1 "2016-12-20T21:07:30Z")
I am attempting to use the Ground Fill. I have seeded my ground connections. My question is… once I have seeded them and applied the ground fill can I remove the traces that connect my grounded pins? If I attempt to do this the dotted wire line reappears as if there is no connection among all of the ground connections. ---
**Author:** ![landracer](https://forum.fritzing.org/user_avatar/forum.fritzing.org/landracer/32/3806_2.png) [@landracer](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/landracer)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/ground-fill-still-need-traces/2662/2 "2016-12-21T14:56:23Z")
Can you please provide an example? ---
**Author:** ![tcox8](https://forum.fritzing.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@tcox8](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/tcox8)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/ground-fill-still-need-traces/2662/3 "2016-12-21T15:16:22Z")
Here it shows the GND trace (red line). on C8, C11, and C1 (and on the other caps as well) I have set the ground seed for them. ![](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a6fafe70922a4a44e6ab9e39f7050e0157cf7cde.png) Second image will be put in another post because it won’t allow me to put two images in one post. ---
**Author:** ![tcox8](https://forum.fritzing.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@tcox8](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/tcox8)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/ground-fill-still-need-traces/2662/4 "2016-12-21T15:16:56Z")
The rat nest lines still show after applying the ground fill. Am I doing something wrong? ![](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9f21cb1a9ce3ed94f2124e5eb30b9d93ae1274fc.png) ---
**Author:** ![mpawlina](https://forum.fritzing.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@mpawlina](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/mpawlina)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/ground-fill-still-need-traces/2662/5 "2016-12-23T18:15:05Z")
I would love to have the above question answered too. In the second picture, if you do autorouting then despite the ground connection already connected to ground plane it will autoroute them with their own connections. I know that I can work around by not using autorouter, or remove the connections afterward, but isn’t there a solution for such case? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![steelgoose](https://forum.fritzing.org/user_avatar/forum.fritzing.org/steelgoose/32/332_2.png) [@steelgoose](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/steelgoose)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/ground-fill-still-need-traces/2662/6 "2016-12-23T21:23:32Z")
@tcox8 When using Ground Fill Seeds you don’t connect them with a trace. The ratsnest lines will still appear to show the ground pins and connections even after ground fill. To remove the ratsnest; Click on the top menu View, then third from the bottom uncheck Ratsnest Layer. Never use auto rout… but if you must, manual connect the main pins first (5v, 3.3v, etc.) and then use auto rout. ---
**Author:** ![mpawlina](https://forum.fritzing.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@mpawlina](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/mpawlina)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/ground-fill-still-need-traces/2662/7 "2016-12-23T22:03:28Z")
Ok, got it. No autorouter. Run traces manually, then ground fill, then remove ratnests. ---
**Author:** ![steelgoose](https://forum.fritzing.org/user_avatar/forum.fritzing.org/steelgoose/32/332_2.png) [@steelgoose](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/steelgoose)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/ground-fill-still-need-traces/2662/8 "2016-12-23T22:24:49Z")
That is it… you got it… ---
**Author:** ![mpawlina](https://forum.fritzing.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@mpawlina](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/mpawlina)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/ground-fill-still-need-traces/2662/9 "2016-12-24T03:32:04Z")
Thanks steelgoose for the info!