# First attempt at using software for a M5StickS3 + PN5180 **URL:** \ **Category:** beginners\ **Created:** [August 15, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/first-attempt-at-using-software-for-a-m5sticks3-pn5180/34419 "2026-08-15T13:55:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dwuk3d](https://forum.fritzing.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@dwuk3d](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/dwuk3d)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/first-attempt-at-using-software-for-a-m5sticks3-pn5180/34419/1 "2026-08-15T13:55:20Z")
I’ve made my first two attempts at using the software today - I’m using ChatGPT to build the fzz files for the parts that I need. I also used it to update the Pi Pico part that I found on a thread on this forum to add labels onto the front. The main issue I am having is that when I place the lines it covers up the labels - is there any way to get the labels to show through the lines - or do I need to somehow offset them in the fzz files? Two example screenshots attached. ![Screenshot 2026-08-15 at 14.51.04](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/3X/6/9/6945e5d2a7345a0173d46f739d937ac18ef94742.png) ![Screenshot 2026-08-15 at 14.42.16](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/3X/7/f/7fc00241d46a0f9be82044ec1e53a9f7659a8293.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![dwuk3d](https://forum.fritzing.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@dwuk3d](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/dwuk3d)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/first-attempt-at-using-software-for-a-m5sticks3-pn5180/34419/2 "2026-08-15T15:56:01Z")
Sorted it - reworked the parts to move the pads out beyond the labels. ![Screenshot 2026-08-15 at 16.55.15](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/3X/b/5/b555efc98e3922d8a9630b7326ec252ce6950102.jpeg) ![Screenshot 2026-08-15 at 16.54.54](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/3X/3/1/3144e2d94507e7c9690496b55b5d008294894dcd.png) ---
**Author:** ![microMerlin](https://forum.fritzing.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@microMerlin](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/microMerlin)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/first-attempt-at-using-software-for-a-m5sticks3-pn5180/34419/3 "2026-08-15T21:48:58Z")
If it is technically possible to plug the board into a breadboard, moving the physical pin connection point is not a good idea. Most boards that need direct pin labelling do it on the physical board, ‘inside’ of the pin. That can still get covered when a wire is routed over the board. There is no perfect location for permanent pin labels. ---
**Author:** ![dwuk3d](https://forum.fritzing.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@dwuk3d](https://forum.fritzing.org/u/dwuk3d)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 8:06am UTC](https://forum.fritzing.org/t/first-attempt-at-using-software-for-a-m5sticks3-pn5180/34419/4 "2026-08-17T08:06:30Z")
Starting to get the hang of the software - very useful so far. All parts created either with Claude or ChatGPT, Also managed to get AI to tidy up the wire routing and check the actual files against designs. ![Screenshot 2026-08-17 at 08.57.17](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/3X/d/3/d32bec21b11fec5bf465cb81dc85bd5ef25c96ac.png) ![Screenshot 2026-08-17 at 08.56.35](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/3X/2/a/2a2c17a8f084c1409e1efff879ea14233801027a.jpeg) ![Screenshot 2026-08-17 at 08.56.15](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/3X/3/3/33aab243280766f40ad3d314bc7c874abe5e24a7.jpeg) ![Screenshot 2026-08-17 at 08.55.31](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/3X/c/f/cfd32552ff4632cb58bebfb191c02737ce59e8aa.jpeg) ![BFC967A9-A015-4ED5-AF77-847BEBD05663_1_105_c](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/3X/b/e/be631b38748182820bc7d24b21e72944952b4027.jpeg) ![C83DE1FD-7A16-41A9-BDB0-CDFE59B9306C_1_105_c](https://forum.fritzing.org/uploads/default/original/3X/0/8/08ce31333eec1d34f7d95803847a3313a678e642.jpeg) Prior to finding this software I’ve mostly been doing the tracing by hand using the macOS photos app. The hardest thing I did was trying to get Claude to give me a top view of the M5StickS3 - with all of the connections reversed. I ended up having to tell it what to do in about 15 very specific tiny steps - otherwise it kept changing the image or moving things around. Worst problem was the pi5 - Claude got the pi5 GPIOs in completely the wrong places - luckily the miss wiring didn’t blow up either board…